From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:06:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4B633B7C.8030700@gmx.de> <873a1nvlki.fsf@gmail.com> <4B65B180.5010202@gmx.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265058452 29065 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2010 21:07:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: paul.r.ml@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 22:07:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc3UM-00010n-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:07:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc3UL-00011b-Lk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:07:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc3TF-0000S3-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:06:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50976 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc3TF-0000Rq-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:06:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc3T9-0002jj-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:06:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54867) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc3T8-0002jX-Ov for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc3T8-0006Hv-6g; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:06:02 -0500 In-reply-to: <4B65B180.5010202@gmx.de> (message from grischka on Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:36:16 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120795 Archived-At: > The concept of fairness plays no role in the study of ecosystems. We > don't ask whether it is fair for an owl to eat a mouse, or for a mouse > to eat a plant. We just note that these interactions are part of the > system. But we are not owls or mice. Humans in between have become able to ask whether it is fair towards other humans or future generations or even nature, if we burn oil for energy, as an example. Exactly. This aspect of things is what the term "ecosystem" does not recognize, and that's why it is better not to use that term here.