From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs for new users Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380911230905t6513e718w1dd804e18003228@mail.gmail.com> <6E092AF13796494BADEBCE2C5C0361CE@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259183684 31466 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 21:14:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, spedrosa@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 22:14:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDPC7-0000EU-9i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41894 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDPC6-0001ev-Rl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:14:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDP05-0002pn-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:02:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDP01-0002lb-9t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47706 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDP00-0002lM-U3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:45996) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDP00-0006Rv-E4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NDOzz-00035Y-Up; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:02:03 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lennart Borgman on Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:15:11 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117766 Archived-At: You seem to be discussing a way to avoid certain confusing situations. That might be a good idea, but my idea of a "keyboard immersion mode" (in which mouse clicks don't do anything) has a different purpose. This is not meant to be more convenient or more foolproof. It is meant to push the user to use and learn the key bindings.