From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Displaying bytes Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20091119082040.GA1720@muc.de> <874ooq8xay.fsf@wanchan.jasonrumney.net> <20091119141852.GC1720@muc.de> <20091119155848.GB1314@muc.de> <87aayiihe9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20091119180848.GE1314@muc.de> <47325.130.55.118.19.1258658705.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <20091119212550.GG1314@muc.de> <87my2ign8u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259103090 28381 80.91.229.12 (24 Nov 2009 22:51:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 24 23:51:23 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ND4E3-0000O9-2y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:51:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51538 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ND4E2-0000T8-Va for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:51:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ND4AF-000766-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ND4AA-00074s-Fu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ND4AA-00074j-9E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36235) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ND4A9-0007Zl-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:09 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ND4A9-0003UP-7b; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:09 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:28:54 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117709 Archived-At: I don't know you see this "tis620" stuff. How strange this discrepancy. I have a few changes that are not installed, but not in anything relevant here. I last updated source code on Nov 18. Here's what apparently defines that character set, in mule-conf.el: (define-charset 'tis620-2533 "TIS620.2533" :short-name "TIS620.2533" :ascii-compatible-p t :code-space [0 255] :superset '(ascii eight-bit-control (thai-tis620 . 128))) I don't entirely understand define-charset, but it seems plausible that this gives the observed results. Is this absent in your source? Anyway, please don't overlook the other suggestions in my message for how to make things clearer. > What are the situations where a user is likely to see these stray > bytes. There pretty much shouldn't be any in multibyte buffers. Would it be good to ask people to send bug reports when these stray byte characters appear in multibyte buffers?