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Subject: Re: turning on minor modes from hooks
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    (foo-mode 'toggle) toggles it.

That seems fine to me.

    I'm not necessarily opposed to (foo-mode (not foo-mode)) but it can't be
    used in the interactive spec, because we want the command-history to say
    "toogle" rather than "turn on" or "turn off", in case the user wants to
    repeat it.

That is a good point.