From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: interactive-p and called-interactively-p Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8AD328622F5645B282D1E72CB4582EF3@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251757324 31425 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2009 22:22:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 00:21:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MiFG8-00015e-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:21:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46255 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MiFG8-00059U-4K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MiFG3-00057f-Nv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MiFFy-00053g-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40969 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MiFFy-00053d-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:56420) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MiFFx-0005BK-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MiFFx-0001L0-1q; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:45 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:54:26 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114923 Archived-At: `interactive-p' has the advantage that it existed for a *very* long time, whereas called-interactively-p is a new comer. It has existed only 5 years, but I think the important point is that its name fits its meaning. The name interactive-p does not correspond to its meaning, and users very often guess wrong about what it does. > Perhaps we should make the name `interactive-p' obsolete and make > a new name, `from-user-input-p'. This will eliminate the > confusion completely. Even such a new name isn't very clear. The only clear solution is to use an additional argument passed from the interactive spec. In what sense is that the only clear solution? I do not follow you here.