From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming 23.1 release Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:41:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ws63cij1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83vdlnnqhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87ljmjchna.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248187917 13949 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2009 14:51:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 21 16:51:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MTGh3-0002i8-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:51:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60979 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTGh2-0006Nv-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:51:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTGdZ-00043h-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:48:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTGdP-0003wO-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39355 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTGdO-0003vy-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:39678) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTGdO-0004Ej-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MTGWz-0006O3-3q; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:41:25 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ljmjchna.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:51:21 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112909 Archived-At: The fix proposed by Richard involves changing an undocumented behavior of buffer-saved-size. Previously, the documentation said that a value of -1 has a certain behavior, but actully any negative number does the same thing as -1; this patch changes things to treat -2 specially. We can't install this without a significant amount of testing to see if this breaks anything. Until I made this change, negative values other than -1 were never used. Imaginary problems in hypothetical nonexistent code should not stop us from fixing a real bug in a real case. The rules we make for how to do maintenance are not sacred. They exist for the sake of making a better release. rmail-output turns on auto-save mode in an Rmail buffer when it outputs a message into that buffer. This is important because the user is very likely to delete the message from the buffer it was previously in, and he might easily save that buffer without saving the other one. Then the message will be in no file, and could get lost. This feature fails to do its job if auto-save mode turns itself off because the text in the Rmail buffer is short. Please install the fix.