From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode is now default? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247835709 31834 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2009 13:01:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 17 15:01:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MRn4E-0006Zv-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:01:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54812 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRn4D-0007GJ-VR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRn45-0007GE-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRn3y-0007DQ-Vt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41958 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRn3y-0007D3-IY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:35925) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MRn3y-0004up-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MRn3w-0003wj-QT; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:20 -0400 In-reply-to: (ams@gnu.org) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112614 Archived-At: Things that have now become broken because of this unannounced change, and not fully thought through chance: - any and all hooks and variable that one uses for mail are not working anymore, since message-mode is not compatible with mail-mode. Causing massive breakage for anyone using mail-mode. - message-mode does not use sendmail-function, causing once again breakage for anyone who wraps their mail around it. message-mode is NOT backwards compatible with mail-mode, please change it back to what it was. This is a huge change, and should be postponed for after the release, wit a proper discussion and poll.