From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] adjusting korean key bindings Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:44:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: <9d644d9b0906110727r7fc75080gf8f10ea47623db7f@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906111954m6cb49cb6pe61716bbe060c980@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906170106r1955c983jf7309e1a49158c01@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245239482 26536 80.91.229.12 (17 Jun 2009 11:51:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jihyun Cho Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 17 13:51:19 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MGtfg-0003gB-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:51:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGtff-0008Se-QF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGtZ2-0000qG-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:44:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGtYx-0000nZ-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56681 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGtYx-0000nT-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:44:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:37093) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGtYw-0002k5-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:44:19 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n5HBiEfO009499; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:44:14 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n5HBiE0S003669; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:44:14 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n5HBiDOs029667; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:44:13 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MGtYr-0004xJ-8N; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:44:13 +0900 In-reply-to: <9d644d9b0906170106r1955c983jf7309e1a49158c01@mail.gmail.com> (message from Jihyun Cho on Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:06:39 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111550 Archived-At: In article <9d644d9b0906170106r1955c983jf7309e1a49158c01@mail.gmail.com>, Jihyun Cho writes: > We are miscommunicating. > I understood that you were concerning about users who are still using F9. > And what I want to tell you about is, those > functions(`quail-hangul-switch-hanja', `hangul-to-hanja-conversion') > are doing same job(to input Hanja), but using different ways. Yes, I understand that. > If you think the backward compatibility is a problem, please just > apply the function 'hangul-to-hanja-conversion' in my patch for many > users to want to customize a keymap. > And I have one more asking. There is no bindings for > 'Hangul','Hangul_Hanja'. Would you add these bindings? Then, to summarize the requested changes: o It doesn't change the previous usage. o It adds new key-binding for 'Hangul' and 'Hangul_Hanja' keys. They are almost the standard keys for Korean users. o It modifies hangul-to-hanja-conversion so that it can be called even when korean input method is off. o Currently the special key bindings for Korean is not documented. So, the change does't require updating the manual. But, of course, documenting them somewhere is preferable. In article , Stefan Monnier writes: > I don't understand enough of the subject to judge, really. Does the > change require updating the manual? Does it change previous usage, or > just add new one? Please see above. > We're really close to a release now, so I'd rather not make such changes > so late in the game. I understand that, but, for Korean users, I think this change improves the usability very much. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org