From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] adjusting korean key bindings Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:43:58 +0900 Message-ID: References: <9d644d9b0906110727r7fc75080gf8f10ea47623db7f@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906111954m6cb49cb6pe61716bbe060c980@mail.gmail.com> <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245134699 5853 80.91.229.12 (16 Jun 2009 06:44:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jihyun Cho Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 08:44:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MGSPB-0001gw-EZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:44:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44136 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGSPA-0003yZ-N9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:44:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGSP4-0003vC-BD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGSOz-0003qP-0D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35831 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGSOy-0003qM-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:20042) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGSOy-00053V-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGSOu-00082F-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n5G6hx3s013344; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:43:59 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n5G6hwdw000325; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:43:58 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n5G6hwti022615; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:43:58 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MGSOk-0007LB-E4; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:43:58 +0900 In-reply-to: <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com> (message from Jihyun Cho on Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:21:44 +0900) X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111539 Archived-At: In article <9d644d9b0906150521o23e54620v779832cc8df8e12@mail.gmail.com>, Jihyun Cho writes: > > Do you mean that we don't need the separate hanja input > > method any more? > What do you mean the "separate hanja input method"? > If it means the method included in Emacs, we need it. I mean the file leim/quail/hanja.el. > I agree that F9 should be maintained as conversion key of Hanja. > But the method `quail-hangul-switch-hanja' is not a general way in Korea. > Korean people don't switch the input mode to use Hanja. > We just input a Hangul Letter, then F9 will convert the Letter to Hanja. > I think it's more simple than the method 'quail-hangul-switch-hanja' > for Korean user. It seems that we are miscommunicating. I'm not discussing whether "F9 should be maintained as conversion key of Hanja." As your patch doesn't change the f9 binding in hangul-im-keymap, I don't have to argue about it. What I want to know is how important the change of f9 binding in korean-key-bindings is. > - (global [f9] quail-hangul-switch-hanja nil) > + (global [f9] hangul-to-hanja-conversion nil) I asked you: > The key-binding of F9 for quail-hangul-switch-hanja is what > suggested long ago by a Korean person (I forgot who was > that). Has the usage of F9 in Korea been changed in these > days? and you replied as this: > But some people are still using F9 and Shift-Space. But now you say: > But the method `quail-hangul-switch-hanja' is not a general way in Korea. > Korean people don't switch the input mode to use Hanja. I'm now confused. If no one use the facility of quail-hangul-switch-hanja nowadays, there's no reason to keep the current f9 binding in korean-key-bindings. But if some people still uses it, we should not change it now. So, which is the case? --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org