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From: Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: C-n and C-a
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:32:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1LSXwC-0001K2-VZ@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)

The new definitions of C-n and C-p seem to work reasonably
conveniently with the very long lines that non-Emacs-users often
write.  However, it is very counterintuitive that C-a and C-e have not
been changed in the same way.  They keep surprising me, and I have to
work hard to remember not to use them to do the natural thing.

I think they too should be changed to operate on screen lines;
that's a necessary part of the change that was already made.

If C-a and C-e are changed this way, we would want some way to go to
the beginning and end of the real line.  Here are some ideas:

* Make C-u C-a and C-u C-e do this.  I suspect nobody uses
those combinations with their current meanings.

* Make M-{ and M-} treat each line as a paragraph.  That would be the
right thing for them to do in such text.  This would require either a
minor mode or detecting long-line text heuristically.

What do others think?




             reply	other threads:[~2009-01-29 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-29 14:32 Richard M Stallman [this message]
2009-01-29 15:10 ` C-n and C-a Tassilo Horn
2009-01-29 16:09   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-01-29 17:15     ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-29 19:40   ` Adrian Robert
2009-01-30  0:32   ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-30  1:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-30  9:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-31 17:45       ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-31 19:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02  1:45           ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-31 20:33         ` Chong Yidong
2009-02-02  1:47           ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-30  7:25   ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-29 18:24 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-29 18:48   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-01-29 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-30 16:07   ` Sascha Wilde
2009-01-31 20:34   ` Chong Yidong
2009-01-30  0:29 ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-30  6:12   ` mail
2009-01-31 17:45     ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-31 22:35       ` Drew Adams
2009-02-01 20:11         ` Leo
2009-02-03 15:11           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-02  1:54         ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-02  2:25           ` Drew Adams
2009-02-02  9:45             ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-06  0:45 ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-06 16:04   ` Chong Yidong
2009-02-08  0:48     ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-08 20:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-09 21:22         ` Christian Schlauer
2009-02-09 22:02         ` Drew Adams
2009-02-10  2:05           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-10  3:11             ` Drew Adams
2009-02-11 22:45         ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-12  2:01           ` Miles Bader
2009-02-12 10:05             ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-12 11:04               ` Miles Bader
2009-02-13  6:33                 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-07  1:52   ` Stefan Monnier

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