From: Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:27:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1LHn3H-0000gH-U8@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zlies8wo.fsf@xemacs.org> (stephen@xemacs.org)
I used to agree with you, but The Kids These Days (ie, those who have
grown up with WIMPy interfaces) think of a window as a (foreground)
process. If the window goes away, the process stops.
But that is generally false. If you iconify a window, the application
continues working -- you just don't see what it displays. For
instance, if you iconify a terminal, the processes running in it do
not stop.
In particular, on a GUI the difference between a kill -STOP'ed emacs
and one with no visible windows is hardly important to the user, who
must do something unusual to resurrect it.
To de-iconify the Emacs frame just requires moving the mouse to the
icon, or to the tab in the bar at the bottom of the screen, and
clicking. I don't think that is unusual.
So the "withdraw frame"
function (which happens to be called `suspend-frame') just keeps
withdrawing frames, and when the last one is withdrawn, emacs goes to
sleep.
It doesn't go to sleep. If it was waiting for a command, it continues
waiting and there is no easy way for it to receive one.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-30 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-27 18:23 Terminology in multi-tty primitives Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 1:00 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 4:28 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 19:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-29 5:31 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-29 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-29 22:09 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-30 2:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-30 22:26 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 2:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 3:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 4:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 6:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:39 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 21:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:55 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 22:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 23:03 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 16:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-01 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-02 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-03 2:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04 3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-04 3:29 ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-04 3:41 ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-04 4:54 ` Chetan Pandya
2008-12-30 22:27 ` Richard M Stallman [this message]
2008-12-31 5:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 6:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 8:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 14:18 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-31 15:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-28 17:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-28 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-27 18:16 Eli Zaretskii
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