From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Don Armstrong <don@donarmstrong.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug tracker breaks rmail-next-same-subject
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:41:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1LBKS0-0007mx-K1@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081212235751.GK24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> (message from Don Armstrong on Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:57:51 -0800)
> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:57:51 -0800
> From: Don Armstrong <don@donarmstrong.com>
>
> So follow threads instead of subjects. I don't use Rmail, so I can't
> tell you how to get it to do that.
There is no such functionality in Rmail, so the only way is to code
it first.
> > As long as there are loads of broken MUAs, using the Subject line
> > will always be more reliable than references. Until now.
>
> No, it's always less reliable. You can use the Subject: as a fallback
> when you don't have References: or In-Reply-To:, but Subject: doesn't
> tell you which message a message is in response to, nor how to elide a
> subthread, or any of a huge number of things you can do with threads
> that aren't possible when you "group" by subject.
You are talking about treating email as news group discussions. I
don't need to go that far; if I did, I'd probably switch to Gnus.
All I want is to find the messages related to a certain subject. I
don't care much to build a tree-like structure out of them, because
the body of the messages has that information, and that is normally
enough for my needs.
> > > If you want to follow a thread, References: and In-Reply-To: are
> > > the way to do that; Subject: may approximate it, but it's never as
> > > accurate.
> >
> > What other use cases will break it? Until now, I didn't see any.
>
> Any time someone changes the subject, or uses a method of quoting that
> doesn't keep it intact.
Well, I have yet to find such cases, then.
Anyway, we are repeating ourselves. It is quite clear that you don't
see a problem in what the tracker does, while I do, because it
interferes with the way I'm used to read mail for many years. I guess
we will have to agree to disagree on that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-13 2:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-12 12:44 Bug tracker breaks rmail-next-same-subject Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 19:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-12 23:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 21:47 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-12 23:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 23:25 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-12 23:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 23:57 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-13 2:41 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-12-13 9:42 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-13 22:58 ` Glenn Morris
2008-12-13 23:14 ` Bugs against emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Don Armstrong
2008-12-13 23:33 ` Glenn Morris
2008-12-14 0:23 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-14 3:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-14 8:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-14 10:13 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-14 20:53 ` Glenn Morris
2008-12-14 21:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-17 5:39 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-17 16:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-18 7:43 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-18 21:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-14 8:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-14 2:50 ` Stefan Monnier
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