From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:22:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18624.40059.414121.633475@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <48C0BB3A.4080201@pajato.com> <87zlmnezy9.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> <48C0FC53.4020806@gmail.com> <6fa54e4e0809050420i5132ace5red5a011b69ecd1ed@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220865873 864 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2008 09:24:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, joakim@verona.se, raman@users.sourceforge.net, smeuuh@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, phil@shellarchive.co.uk To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 08 11:25:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kcczp-000862-WD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:25:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59053 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kccyq-0007Z6-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:24:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kccyj-0007Ye-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kccyh-0007Xk-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45087 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kccyh-0007Xh-9D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:34129) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kccyh-0002Ul-62 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Kccwy-0004Ee-Pb; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:22:25 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:55:38 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103680 Archived-At: > It sounds like you are editing text with markup commands and viewing > the formatted results on the side. Of course that works, but most > people prefer a word processor in which one edits the formatted text. Maybe most people do, but I'm not sure if most Emacs users do. The aim is to make Emacs appeal to people that want to edit formatted documents through word processing. The existing users of Emacs who like the current modes of operation could continue to use them. Making Emacs a word processor is a matter of implementing additional formatting features: representing them in the buffer, displaying them, and saving them in files. No, I'm not suggesting any new feature, other than the fact that using something like XEmbed to let something like Firefox render web pages is a more promising direction than doing the whole rendering in Emacs. I agree with you on that point.