From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Removing MULTI_KBOARD Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:34:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200808011209.m71C9Tj3018356@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200808020655.m726tvsI017108@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200808020927.m729Rnov027876@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <489432B0.2000305@gnu.org> <87r697qzn3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <18580.58502.366085.330994@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200808040115.m741Fp6T000371@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200808231824.m7NIOcqI011373@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200808231913.m7NJDQxZ002663@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219556202 3166 80.91.229.12 (24 Aug 2008 05:36:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 24 07:37:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KX8IA-0001h4-Cn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:37:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KX8HC-0000DK-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KX8Gz-0000BX-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KX8Gy-0000B7-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40289 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KX8Gy-0000B3-DX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53732) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KX8Gx-000458-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KX8Fa-0007AY-AE; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:34:54 -0400 In-reply-to: <200808231913.m7NJDQxZ002663@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (message from Dan Nicolaescu on Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:13:24 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102906 Archived-At: So you are in effect saying that you preemptive attack was baseless and without any technical justification (the HR approach was so wrong that's not even worth disscussing). Refusing to provide a technical justification after so many requests is quite telling. Thank you. It was entirely reasonable for Eli object to a change that looked like it would make things more difficult for him -- he did not have to try to actually do the work before he could object to this. The fact that he ultimately went along with the change, rather than undoing it, argues that removing the no-MULTI_KBOARD code was a good change. But it doesn't change the conclusion that you should have asked.