From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:40:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <10697146.3630221218551689983.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <20080812171404.GB7999@muc.de> <20080813092057.GA3010@muc.de> <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> <877iak7xfp.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <48A5BA3F.1050005@emf.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218883341 26519 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2008 10:42:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, ams@gnu.org, hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 16 12:43:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KUJFX-0007YT-Nx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:43:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44735 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUJEb-0008RA-4v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:42:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUJDx-00080x-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUJDw-00080H-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42953 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUJDw-00080C-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50579) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KUJDw-00089a-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:41:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KUJCj-0003Rv-6x; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:40:17 -0400 In-reply-to: <48A5BA3F.1050005@emf.net> (message from Thomas Lord on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:17:51 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102522 Archived-At: Then why was the GNU system bootstrapped on proprietary systems? I thought about this issue and concluded that use of a non-free program for the specific purpose of developing its free replacement. You describe defensive measures as "defeatism". I call it "prudence". There are other confused and inaccurate assertions as well, but I'm not going to play your game by responding to each of them.