From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: start emacs without creating frames and connect with emacsclient later Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200808131610.m7DGAkvk020047@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218804393 13872 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2008 12:46:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 14:47:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTyi2-0000f4-Km for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:47:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55193 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTyh5-0005Ph-Ez for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTyh1-0005PP-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:46:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTyh1-0005PA-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:46:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34804 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTyh1-0005P7-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:46:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:45310) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTyh0-0002cN-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTyfo-0004HG-D2; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:44:56 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:21:01 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102482 Archived-At: I strongly suspect that the proposed patch is a bit naive and will need more work to make it work right (the fact that it ends up not calling frame-initialize at all is very suspect). I.e. it will lead to several new bug reports. I won't argue for installing code if it isn't correct. My point is simply that this is more in the nature of completing a recently added feature than adding a new feature. I don't see that a feature freeze should be so rigid as to exclude this sort of thing.