From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:41:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <10697146.3630221218551689983.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <20080812171404.GB7999@muc.de> <20080813092057.GA3010@muc.de> <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218771765 30346 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2008 03:42:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 05:43:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTqDv-0000V5-NU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:43:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33156 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTqCz-0008Ev-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTqCu-0008DC-PJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTqCt-0008BA-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43362 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTqCt-0008B0-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:42:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:44665) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTqCt-0003O7-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:42:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTqBg-0005OL-Kg; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:41:16 -0400 In-reply-to: <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:38:17 +0000) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102471 Archived-At: Hey, you snipped too much of the context, you rascal! The effort I was talking about was that of a large company, with all the bureaucracy and inertia that goes with it. I was talking about switching your own computing to GNU/Linux, within the company, not the bigger task of convincing the whole company to change. With that clarified, is my response more understandable? Other people and groups are advancing free software by emphasising free software's high quality. Yet you don't recognise their efforts as legitimate, You have misunderstood my position. I do not criticize them for persuasively citing practical advantages. If they oppose our efforts at a deeper level, by endorsing the idea that freedom is not an important issue, I do criticize that.