From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:04:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <485b0c380808011427n4d3144eey3f8daf3abac83bf4@mail.gmail.com> <87ej589vku.fsf@hagelb.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217924018 17712 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2008 08:13:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tromey@redhat.com, phil@hagelb.org, spedrosa@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 10:14:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQHgZ-0004iZ-AM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:14:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54030 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHfe-0003CJ-4c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:13:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHed-0002ii-Jo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHeW-0002dd-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43571 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHeW-0002dN-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:60832) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQHeW-0007nS-4U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KQHX8-0004G0-PZ; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:04:42 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:07:47 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102078 Archived-At: Some unbundled Elisp packages (and some bundled ones as well, sadly) have all kinds of nasty flaws. Using CL is the least of my worries in this arena, Perhaps we can't do anything about flaws in the Lisp programs that are distributed independently of us. Their developers never made any commitment to follow our standards. But FSF-copyrighted programs are GNU packages, and have maintainers who have undertaken to do so.