From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:27:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87sku5hxl9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fxq4hxss.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <867ibfjnns.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86vdyygk7d.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216780188 26546 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 02:29:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, miles@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 04:30:36 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLU7d-0004kS-4H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:30:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52430 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLU6j-0005Y6-Qr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:29:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLU55-0003Qt-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:27:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLU55-0003Po-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46778 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLU54-0003PS-Hz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:39535) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLU54-0007nX-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLU4H-0005as-36; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:27:05 -0400 In-reply-to: <86vdyygk7d.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:46:46 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101270 Archived-At: > Not at all. It's normal for a community to contain people > with different views; just because people adopt a different set > of politics does not make them a separate community. Then it would appear that we are part of the preexisting UNIX community, and the "free software community" is a myth. That's a nonsequitur if I ever saw one. Free software and open source stand for political views, but in our commuity people with various views often work together developing the same program. That's why we are all part of one community. GNU and Unix are different systems developed by different groups that cannot work together. It's no accident that GNU's Not Unix; that was a necessary requirement to achieve the goal. We made a clean break.