From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <85y73u96jl.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <86r69mgig9.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86iquygf71.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216739615 29365 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 15:13:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 17:14:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLJYg-0005Ni-FM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:13:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50301 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJXn-0005mi-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJXi-0005mU-Jv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJXg-0005mH-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56741 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJXf-0005mE-Vl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:59923) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLJXf-0003Qj-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLJWy-0006MB-KI; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:12:00 -0400 In-reply-to: <86iquygf71.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:34:58 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101213 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:34:58 +0200 > Cc: hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: David Kastrup > >> Cc: hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:24:38 +0200 > >> > >> Yes, since COMMAND.COM and CMD.EXE behave quite differently, and also > >> differently on different versions of Windows. > > > > And zsh behaves differently from Bash which behaves differently from > > the Borne shell. > > Not in the basic Bourne shell features. And COMMAND.COM behaves like CMD.EXE ``in the basic DOS shell features''. This can go on forever, you know. Your bias and lack of objective comparison are obvious. No need to continue. > >> So tell me: How to you quote the word (written as Lisp string) > >> "\"goof\" " to the typical Windows shell? > > > > See the Emacs makefiles for Windows. > > They don't quote such words. Yes, they do, see for example `check-declare' in lisp/makefile.w32-in. > I have worked with DOS beginning with version 1.0 when they were still > mainly working with FCBs rather than file descriptors, and I have worked > with CP/M, and I have worked with UNIX on various processors and OS/2. > I have done quite a bit of assembly and system programming in all of > those systems (many of that for pay), so I know a lot of the inheritage, > memory and system layouts, and I know a lot of the implementations, and > what system calls were done with what sort of data structures when what > sort of features were implemented imitating features from elsewhere. Sorry, I'm not interested in a pissing contest.