From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "no-conversion" coding system (was: ^M in the info files) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:31:18 +0900 Message-ID: References: <484F1FAB.6070005@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215646304 26426 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2008 23:31:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 10 01:32:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KGj9C-0005eg-8r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:32:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KGj8K-00058Q-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:31:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KGj8F-00057l-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:31:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KGj8E-00057Z-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:31:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55750 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KGj8E-00057W-Gf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:31:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:36889) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KGj8D-0004SP-V1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:31:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m69NVLwV004394; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:31:21 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m69NVL78004000; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:31:21 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m69NVIg5019549; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:31:18 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KGj82-0007tA-3n; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:31:18 +0900 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:54:28 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100506 Archived-At: In article , Stefan Monnier writes: >>> What is the coding system of emacs/info/efag when you visit >>> that file directly? > > Both when I visit it directly and when I access it through Info, > > buffer-file-coding-system is `no-conversion'. > BTW, could we get rid of `no-conversion' (or at least make it obsolete > and deprecated)? > I mean, this is a misnomer which gives the illusion that there is such > a thing as "no conversion", even though in reality there always is some > conversion going on. Better use the name `binary', I think. When we do C-x C-m c no-conversion RET C-x C-f FILE RET, "no-conversion" really means "no-conversion" because FILE is read into a unibyte buffer without any conversion. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp