From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visualization of CVS commits Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:20:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080624.080153.252133130.wl@gnu.org> <87vdzyfx7s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lk0tfno1.fsf@gmail.com> <18532.14521.369949.349604@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <486443EE.9080709@emf.net> <48654602.7020707@emf.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214659297 26408 80.91.229.12 (28 Jun 2008 13:21:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, paul.r.ml@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 28 15:22:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KCaNe-0000lD-2W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:22:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45361 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KCaMn-0000hF-Uo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KCaMJ-0000X5-FY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KCaMH-0000Vu-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37718 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KCaMH-0000Vl-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:20:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:39533) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCaMH-0001Ka-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:20:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KCaM2-0004SC-U4; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:20:38 -0400 In-reply-to: <48654602.7020707@emf.net> (message from Thomas Lord on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:56:50 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100089 Archived-At: The ability to publish and view videos published for and viewable on any "A-list browser", using only binaries from accountable distributors and to be of sufficient quality to work on all popular platforms without crashing *too* often, said videos to be made available without incurring hosting fees for the publisher and to be available for embedding in other web pages. I do not see a way to do this today without opposing and harming the free software cause. We must urge people to reject Flash as a publication format -- we have no choice. Flash videos are encoded in MPEG4, a patented format whose use we must oppose in general, whether embedded in Flash or not. We have no choice. Whatever may be the inconvenience of not using that format, we must choose the inconvenience and reject the format. It is that or surrender.