From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pretest, devel and bug lists Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:32:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <007201c8c038$e401e490$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <483C7BC7.3030700@gnu.org> <18493.52214.798172.380836@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20080529162250.GO15311@volo.donarmstrong.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212154475 17451 80.91.229.12 (30 May 2008 13:34:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Don Armstrong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 15:35:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K24lG-000110-Oo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:35:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45809 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K24kV-0003Jk-2c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:34:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K24kQ-0003Im-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K24kP-0003IG-Gs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60107 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K24kP-0003ID-AK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:46380) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K24kO-0005Aq-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K24ig-0001kt-3k; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:32:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <20080529162250.GO15311@volo.donarmstrong.com> (message from Don Armstrong on Thu, 29 May 2008 17:22:50 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98059 Archived-At: > 2. Whether the bug tracker should send mail to bug-gnu-emacs. > > That is the question I was talking about before. I think it should > NOT send any mail to bug-gnu-emacs, or to emacs-pretest-bug. The way bug-gnu-emacs works now, all of the messages which haven't come from the bug tracker get sent to the bug tracker first, which assigns new messages a bug number and modifies the headers accordingly. This first part can't really be changed and still have a functional bug tracker and a bug-gnu-emacs which works as it did previously. I don't understand what that means, but I have a feeling you are not talking about the same issue. I am NOT talking about messages that are actually sent to the list by users. I am talking about the canned messages that originate from the bug tracker. The only extraneous messages that the bug tracker sends (or at least, should be sending) to bug-gnu-emacs which wouldn't previously have been seen on that list are the control modification transcripts. Perhaps those are the messages I am talking about. What I am saying is that it SHOULD NOT send those messages to emacs-devel or bug-gnu-emacs. Never. It should send them to a separate list, which people can subscribe to if they are interested. I am not talking about any other question.