From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: window groups Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:39:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <483D4E9A.9020001@gmx.at> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212025290 5972 80.91.229.12 (29 May 2008 01:41:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 29 03:42:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K1X9e-0006xK-PI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 03:42:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34358 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1X8t-00022y-Er for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1X8i-0001yL-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:41:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1X8h-0001xv-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33268 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1X8h-0001xq-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:58108) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K1X8h-0000zu-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K1X70-0004MR-Vv; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:39:27 -0400 In-reply-to: <483D4E9A.9020001@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Wed, 28 May 2008 14:22:50 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97939 Archived-At: Could you describe the purpose of the window groups feature in a few lines of English? If the feature does not have a simple conceptual description, it is not a good feature. Using a number to designate each group is un-Lispy. It seems unclean that the group disappears if you happen to reduce it to just one window. - IDEs would typically specify one window group ("edit-area" in ECB, "editor" in Eclipse) for each frame. Splitting any window of that group would be done by setting the GROUP argument for `split-window' to t. Other applications would not interfere with the layout of that group since, by default, their GROUP argument would not be t. I cannot follow why this does the right thing for them. Can you explain?