From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <003801c89a85$fcd95ad0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080410154940.GB7700@muc.de> <20080410162459.GC7700@muc.de> <47FEF118.5010803@emf.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207959225 11502 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 00:13:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 02:14:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkTNp-00066p-5E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:14:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkTNB-00012E-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkTKk-0006rN-7H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkTKj-0006qt-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkTKj-0006qo-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkTKj-0001Ej-7w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JkTKi-0002Sz-K0; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:11:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <47FEF118.5010803@emf.net> (message from Thomas Lord on Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:03:20 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95005 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21982 Archived-At: Meanwhile, that stuff from O'Reilly is mostly about how to manage a commercially sponsored "open source" project in such a way as to maximize your ability to extract gratis labor from the "community". Their philosophy and goals are different from ours, but the actual work of developing software is the same. A lot of the work of open source supporters about how to develop software is useful for supporters of free software. The crucial philosophical value of the free software movement does not concern how we develop Emacs, but rather the freedom of the users once they get it from us.