From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tab bar Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wsnaso3h.fsf@jurta.org> <87d4p2tuim.fsf@jurta.org> <87prt2qzbd.fsf@jurta.org> <87r6dhbbd6.fsf@jurta.org> <47FB9448.7020900@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207737438 25609 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2008 10:37:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 12:37:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjXga-0002rx-Ca for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:37:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjXfw-0003vK-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:37:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjXcf-0003EJ-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjXcb-0003D2-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjXca-0003Co-9T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjXcZ-0000p2-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:33:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JjXcY-00087r-Sw; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:33:38 -0400 In-reply-to: <47FB9448.7020900@gnu.org> (message from Jason Rumney on Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:50:32 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94775 Archived-At: Users who want to use tabs will probably use them instead of frames (in my experience, there is little overlap between users who want everything in one frame with tabs to select between them, and users who want a separate frame for everything), so sharing keybindings with C-x 5 may be an acceptable solution if we cannot find free keys. That sounds plausible to me. Something like: if the current window or its containing frame is already tabbed, or if the user or mode has expressed a preference for a tabbed UI, then C-x 5 C-f creates a new tab, and C-u C-x 5 C-f creates a new frame. Otherwise the behaviour of C-x 5 bindings are reversed. This convention might be problematical, especially if some of the commands already use the prefix arg for something else.