From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324200911.GA1310@muc.de> <001e01c88dee$34267e90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080324210229.GB1310@muc.de> <47F128AA.6000905@emf.net> <87y77ybf3x.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <85hcemhzj4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871w5pfedh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87tzikwegm.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207157688 2967 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2008 17:34:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, cyd@stupidchicken.com, jared@hpalace.com, lord@emf.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 02 19:35:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jh6rm-00086A-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:35:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh6r9-0005Ne-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh6r5-0005MI-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh6r3-0005Ip-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh6r3-0005Ig-Jy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jh6r3-00083O-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jh6r1-00021i-8a; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:34:31 -0400 In-reply-to: <87tzikwegm.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (storm@cua.dk) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94212 Archived-At: It seems that Richard is in favour of a scheme which supports both ^ in the interactive spec and a command property (for external packages), but IMHO, this is overkill -- It is cleaner to have this in `interactive' than in a separate property. If we name the property something like shift-select, then the help system can easily tell people that "applying the Shift modifier to this command will start or extend the active region". It can do that based on the interactive spec, too. That is a good idea.