From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcff5upc.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87fxuxsg3m.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87r6egp8oo.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <47D86DC6.4080805@gmail.com> <87lk4m6y2o.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205513119 15977 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 16:45:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, miles@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 17:45:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JaD23-0000TG-Vx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:45:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JaD1U-0002yx-PE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JaD1Q-0002xn-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JaD1N-0002tr-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JaD1N-0002tl-Rt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaD1N-0006FM-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JaD1M-0005IK-Fq; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:44:40 -0400 In-reply-to: <87lk4m6y2o.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (storm@cua.dk) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92584 Archived-At: > The interactive spec is where you specify other things about how to > call the function interactively. So it is a cleaner interface to put > this in the same place. What about commands which have a lisp form as interactive spec? There can be a function they can call to do this (Stefan proposed that). > Using those hooks is unreliable and slow. That's simply not true! CUA mode uses them, and it works fast and flawlessly. The more things use these hooks, the more danger there is of bugs due to running things in the wrong order. For things like this, something fixed, at the right place in the command loop, is better.