From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:11:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <8763w0n393.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871w6ounk0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ablacdxt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47D6EE6D.5030809@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205334806 20211 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2008 15:13:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 16:13:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-forward.uio.no ([129.240.10.42]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZSdz-0002sb-Et for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:13:27 +0100 Original-Received: from mail-mx6.uio.no ([129.240.10.47]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZSdR-0003vI-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:12:53 +0100 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by mail-mx6.uio.no with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZSdH-0003Ci-4e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:12:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZSd8-0007xY-Vq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZSce-0007in-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZSca-0007hY-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZSca-0007hS-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZScY-0003Kd-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZScS-0000Nq-BK; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:11:52 -0400 In-reply-to: <47D6EE6D.5030809@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1) X-UiO-Scanned: F9E2A33F448E7F658F8F35BF297223FAE6A6626C X-UiO-SR-test: 7D2831A4F000E3F47CC85DEA82ADF42566E64E03 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 199.232.76.165 spam_score: -9 maxlevel 200 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 8 total 42564 max/h 424 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92290 Archived-At: Not if it is done in a separate post-post-command-hook. (And a similar pre-pre-command-hook at other side.) That is both ineffeciant and kludgy. And it would, more or less, hard-wire shift, in that it would be hard to override the "standard" meaning of shift for any one command. Yes, you could eliminate it entirely, but that is inflexible.