From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcff5upc.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87fxuxsg3m.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205281197 25687 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2008 00:19:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 01:20:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZEhg-0005bW-2U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:20:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZEh7-000779-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZEh3-00076k-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZEh1-00076W-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZEh1-00076D-AT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZEh1-0000e0-32 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZEgz-0001EU-NO; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:19:37 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:19 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92220 Archived-At: Instead, it presumes that that key is only ever used for cursor movement. If the key is rebound to something that behaves differently. E.g. if the user rebinds C-f to find-file, S-C-f might activate the region and then call find-file. That is true, so the method is not perfect. But at least you can fix it by rebinding S-C-f. However, I don't think we should change C-f by default.