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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: schwab@suse.de, christopher.ian.moore@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: Re: capslock changes control characters?
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:54:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JYWHq-0006Dq-RD@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvskz2m990.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:04:17 -0500)

In article <jwvskz2m990.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> > I think the current Emacs doesn't have a clear view about
> > when and how to resolve modifiers.  For instance, S-i is
> > resolved to `I' by XLookupString, C-i is resolved to 9 in
> > make_ctrl_char.  Then I think C-S-i should also be resolved
> > somewher before it's given to Lisp, at least before it's
> > given to Lisp as character.

> It should still be possible to distinguish key-bindings to C-i
> (i.e. TAB) and C-S-i (i.e. S-TAB), provided the underlying terminal
> allows it, obviously.
> Does your code still allow this distinction?

No.  If one needs such distinction, he should use
read-event.

> > Resolving of M-i is surely questionable, but as Emacs has
> > accepeted M-i upon (insert (read-char)) for long, I resolved
> > them too for backward compatibility.

> I think this was just an accidental misfeature and would should not
> preserve this kind of backward compatibility.  I can't imagine how it
> could break any existing elisp package, and if a user used that in the
> past, there are plenty of alternative ways to get the same result in
> a saner way.

Ok.  But, currently Emacs allows this kind of string "\M-i"
(same as "\351", note that "\H-i" signales the error
"Invalid modifier in string").  It seems that this is also a
misfeature.  If we disallow M-i upon (insert (read-char)),
shouldn't we disallow "\M-i" too?

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-10  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-18 18:45 capslock changes control characters? Chris Moore
2008-02-24 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-03 10:38   ` David Reitter
2008-03-03 14:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-03 14:49       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-04 13:15         ` Chris Moore
2008-03-05  5:13   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-03-05 16:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-05 16:50       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-06 11:20         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-03-07 23:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-10  0:54             ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2008-03-10  3:26               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16  9:15     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-17  0:48       ` Kenichi Handa

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