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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, tsuchiya@namazu.org
Subject: Re: Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand'
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:39:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JYOYz-0006oY-Qd@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87abl8svpl.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:21:42 +0200)

    > I have doubts that this is uniformly the best thing to do.
    > I think that the best thing to do depends on the message:
    > some messages are good to display at the end of the minibuffer,
    > as in `minibuffer-message', and some are better just omitted
    > while in the minibuffer.

    Currently messages displayed when the minibuffer is active don't get
    omitted.  They just obscure the minibuffer content from the user.

The message I replied to showed an example of code that omits
the message when the minibuffer is active.

    With the patch I sent (that changes `message' to call `minibuffer-message'
    in the active minibuffer), Isearch in the minibuffer works mostly without
    changes,

I am surprised.  How does it do that?  If `message' calls
`minibuffer-message', how come that doesn't cause all the isearch
messages to appear after the minibuffer text?

	     but there is a difference on failed Isearch: without this patch
    the Isearch error message overwrites the minibuffer content, but with this
    patch it appends the error message to the end of the minibuffer, e.g.

    I-search backward: foo [Failing I-search backward: bar]

I am not sure how to interpret that, because I do not know what foo
and bar stand for.  But it cannot be right to have two isearch
messages at once.  Whether the search succeeds or fails, its message
should be displayed in the same place, in the same way.

    Otherwise, we could just fix this particular case not to use
    `minibuffer-message'.

If `message' automatically calls `minibuffer-message' when the minibuffer
is active, how is it possible to fix one case not to do that?








  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-09 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-04 16:42 Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand' paul r
2008-03-04 21:54 ` Michael Albinus
2008-03-04 23:17   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-05  1:55     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06  8:40   ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-06 10:04     ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 16:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-06 16:14         ` Drew Adams
2008-03-06 17:31         ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 17:46           ` Drew Adams
2008-03-06 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-07  2:14             ` Miles Bader
2008-03-06 23:48           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 17:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 23:45           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-06 23:47         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-08 17:39         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-08 22:21           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-08 22:38             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-08 22:57               ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09  0:21                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-08 23:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-09 16:39             ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2008-03-09 17:45               ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10  6:12                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-10 14:44                   ` Cannot build the trunk since unicode (was: Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand') Stefan Monnier
2008-03-11  9:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-11  9:40                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-10 22:35                   ` Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand' Juri Linkov
2008-03-11 20:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-12  0:31                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-12 23:13                         ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-12 23:19                           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-12 23:36                             ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-13  2:14                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-13  9:28                             ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-13 14:54                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 19:02                                 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14  2:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-14  7:46                                     ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14 15:07                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-15  3:23                                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-15  3:24                                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-14  3:21                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14  7:47                                     ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14 15:05                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 18:33                                         ` martin rudalics
2008-03-14 19:20                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 22:31                                             ` martin rudalics
2008-03-15  0:59                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 14:24                                             ` martin rudalics
2008-03-16 18:28                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17  7:36                                                 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-17 15:00                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14  1:04                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-09 14:01       ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-09 17:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10  0:08           ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-10  0:57             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-10  1:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-10  2:20               ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-10  2:37                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-10 22:31                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-12  1:31               ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-12  2:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-12 10:42                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-15  8:29                   ` TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
2008-03-15 10:24                     ` paul r
2008-03-15 21:35                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-20 19:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 20:55                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-21 17:17                         ` Stefan Monnier

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