From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205029205 11027 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2008 02:20:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 03:20:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYB9J-0005c8-FQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:20:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYB8l-0000az-At for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:19:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYB7Y-00084l-T2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYB7X-00082x-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYB7X-00082m-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYB7W-0006Ek-Tt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JYB7V-0002C8-Qd; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:37 -0500 In-reply-to: <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (storm@cua.dk) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91837 Archived-At: > I don't see why it is really necessary to insist on refactoring > cua-(selection-)mode for these features to be used by default. > > So that we don't have to have all of CUA loaded by default, for one > thing. Basic CUA functionality is already split into a separate module, It sounds like basic CUA functionality includes more than this one feature. If we want to install the shift-arrow feature by default, we should install just that, and implement it in the best way we can.