From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mode line changes Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <18383.1723.48367.507940@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200803052140.m25Leveo005511@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <18383.10929.552453.7400@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200803052344.m25NiZBu005661@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87zltcln3n.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204861710 27975 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 03:48:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 03:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, dann@ics.uci.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 04:48:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXTZj-00067P-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:48:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTZC-0005b7-1Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:48:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQH-0003Ou-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQF-0003NH-Fx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQE-0003N6-TJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXTQE-0000uD-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JXTQE-0001d3-6o; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0500 In-reply-to: <87zltcln3n.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:20:28 +0900) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91600 Archived-At: That's not always true -- at some point, the mode-line become busy and prone to problems with accidental clicks: if you try to click on a modeline widget, and miss by a character, it may be better that nothing happens than something unwanted does; the more crowded with active regions the modeline gets, the greater the chance for such mishaps. That is a very good point. The smaller an active area is, the harder it is to use, and the more error prone it becomes. If the mouse click brings up a menu, rather than taking immediate action, that more or less avoids the error problem. It does not reduce the inconvenience problem. (I am not sure what feature was proposed.)