From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:38:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204861662 27862 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 03:47:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 03:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 04:48:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXTZ0-0005vH-1I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:48:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTYS-0004Yi-Fl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:47:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQF-0003NX-NY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQD-0003Ld-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQD-0003LT-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXTQC-0000tr-OB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:00 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JXTQB-0001cO-In; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:38:59 -0500 In-reply-to: <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (storm@cua.dk) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91599 Archived-At: I don't see why it is really necessary to insist on refactoring cua-(selection-)mode for these features to be used by default. So that we don't have to have all of CUA loaded by default, for one thing. BTW, why is using a pre- or post- command hook so bad? Every use of them (1) slows Emacs down and (2) creates the possibility of bad interactions with other features. The more commonly used a feature is, the more desirable it becomes to avoid using those hooks.