From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <873ar47n28.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204861614 27758 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 03:46:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 03:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 04:47:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXTYE-0005jZ-5N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:47:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTXg-0003QN-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:46:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQF-0003Ni-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQD-0003Lp-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXTQD-0003Lc-92 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXTQC-0000tu-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JXTQA-0001cI-8V; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:38:58 -0500 In-reply-to: <873ar47n28.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (message from Bastien on Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:45:03 +0000) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91598 Archived-At: On top of this, Shift-arrow keys are already in use in org-mode. That doesn't necessarily mean we should not give them a global meaning. Org mode is not crucial enough to determine global Emacs key decisions. If we do that, Org mode can still bind those keys as it does now, if that is the best thing for it to do. However, it might be desirable to change Org mode to use other keys for this.