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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	nick.steeves@uleth.ca, eliz@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix}	input methods
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:22:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JVPmy-0006q3-2O@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8563w6vipk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:31:35 +0100)

In article <8563w6vipk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > What bothers me is that the same input method suddenly switches the
> > encoding I need to use from under my feet, just because I used one
> > particular character supported by that input method.

> Huh?  That's not related to the input method at all.  The input method
> switches nothing.  It is the presence of the character (and in the
> unicode-2 branch, we don't even have to unify those characters anymore)
> in the buffer that requires some specific coding.

> > And on top of that, if I already used some of the characters not in
> > Latin-9, my only practical choice is UTF-8.  Somehow, this sounds
> > wrong to me, but it looks like I'm the only one bothered by that, so
> > maybe this problem exists only in my eyes.

> It is not related to input methods.  In fact, I find it somewhat silly
> to have different latin-x input methods at all.  Why don't we replace
> them all with a single latin-x input method, or with language specific
> ones?  It seems somewhat pointless to have input methods that
> meticulously avoid producing a certain character when this character can
> be produced by any number of other means.

I can think of one reason to have them.  While one is using
latin-x-* input methods, he can think that he never type a
character not included in latin-x.  In other word, if he
wants to type a character not supproted by latin-x-* input
methods, he must expect that his file can't be saved by
latin-x.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-01 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1203936672.22517.5.camel@Argo.Styx>
     [not found] ` <87k5ktuf7d.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
     [not found]   ` <E1JTnvq-0008Ol-Rc@etlken.m17n.org>
     [not found]     ` <87mypo5x1e.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
     [not found]       ` <1204070698.4334.39.camel@Argo.Styx>
2008-02-28 19:24         ` PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix} input methods Chong Yidong
2008-02-28 20:00           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  2:26             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  4:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29  5:49                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  9:21                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-29 10:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 12:02               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 12:08                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 13:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 14:09                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 14:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 14:39                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-01  1:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01  2:02                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 14:45                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-01  1:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 13:32                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-29 19:24                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 14:50                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-29 19:54               ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-29 21:38                 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01  8:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 10:31                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 11:22                     ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2008-03-01 11:51                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 12:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 13:00                           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 14:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 19:53                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-02  4:41                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-01 12:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 23:09                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 13:43                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-28 21:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29  9:56             ` Nick Steeves
2008-02-29 14:58             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-02  4:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29 19:54           ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-29 20:05             ` Jason Rumney

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