From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: m17n, otf0 and configuring on Kubuntu Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:57:56 +0900 Message-ID: References: <47C419C9.8030004@alice.it> <8763wb9222.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47C441DB.2000200@swipnet.se> <47C51010.4030003@swipnet.se> <47C525C7.5030709@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP-2 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204110348 31952 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2008 11:05:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it, miles@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 27 12:06:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JUK6u-0008T0-PG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:06:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JUK6N-0005qJ-3k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JUJza-00031Q-ET for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:58:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JUJzV-0002yF-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:58:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JUJzU-0002xY-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:58:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JUJzM-0005Z4-To; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:58:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m1RAw3dF019277; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:58:03 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m1RAw35a023061; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:58:03 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m1RAvuCQ007877; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:57:56 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JUJz2-0007Rt-KN; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:57:56 +0900 In-reply-to: <47C525C7.5030709@gnu.org> (message from Jason Rumney on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:56:39 +0000) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90585 Archived-At: In article <47C525C7.5030709@gnu.org>, Jason Rumney writes: > Jan Dj$(D+#(Brv wrote: > > Does it make sense to add something about this in the summary > > configure puts out at the end? Like > > > > Complex Text Layout yes/no > > OpenType fonts yes/no > > > > I could to that. Is it a one to one mapping, i.e. libotf => OpenType > > fonts and m17n => CTL or are both required? > Does libotf enable the use of OpenType fonts, or does it just enable the > use of advanced features available in them? The latter, even without m17n-lib and libotf, xft and ftx font backends can use OpenType fonts just as TrueType fonts. So, on GNU/Linux, if both m17n-lib and libotf are available, Complex Text Layout yes Otherwise Complex Text Layout no But, this message may be confusing. > > OpenType fonts yes/no Even the pre-unicode emacs can use OpenType fonts as X core fonts because the recent X server supports TrueType fonts (and most OpenType fonts are just TrueType fonts with some additional tables). So, perhaps the more correct message is: Local system font yes/no or Font Antialiasing yes/no On GNU/Linux, it's yes iff one of xft and ftx font backends is available. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp