From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85ablvftqe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8e24944a0802201130y1601cd6dvf22a8089e2de97f7@mail.gmail.com> <858x1fe6fc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8e24944a0802201241o4a2a70d0xb823b3fa27692bfd@mail.gmail.com> <87zltujk8n.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203721278 17001 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 23:01:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, david.delaharpe.golden@gmail.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 00:01:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSgta-00077J-O6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:01:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgt5-00016E-F6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgpN-0005TV-0O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgpK-0005R2-MV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgpK-0005Qf-B6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSgpK-0001EE-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSgpI-0005Gg-6u; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:08 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Miles Bader on Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:18:36 +0900) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90041 Archived-At: > But even this is not necessary: cua-selection-mode uses C-SPC C-SPC > to set the mark without activating the region (more precisely the second > C-SPC cancels the region activation). No it's not. If that feature is desired (seems ok to me), it should just be added to normal t-m-m. That makes sense to me. Just as C-SPC C-SPC enables a temporarily specially active region when that's not the default (Transient Mark mode disabled), it could set the mark and not activate in the mode where activating is the default (Transient Mark mode enabled). I am not sure whether it is useful, but there is no reason to reject it if it is useful.