From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMarkMode by default] Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20080220200142.GA1979@muc.de><006e01c8740e$366ebbd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080221081923.GB1891@muc.de> <002801c8746e$413695a0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203650144 13792 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 03:15:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de, miles@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 04:16:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSOON-0003Sy-Bt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:16:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSONr-00035b-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:15:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSJup-00041d-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:29:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSJun-0003zq-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:29:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSJun-0003ze-CT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:29:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSJun-0006gP-9y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:29:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSJum-0001Pv-HB; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:29:16 -0500 In-reply-to: <002801c8746e$413695a0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> (drew.adams@oracle.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:01 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89925 Archived-At: 5. If you set option `mark-even-if-inactive' to non-nil, then you can always use the region, even in t-m mode, and even when it is inactive. This option has no effect unless you use t-m mode. What's the point of #5, and isn't #5 confusing? I don't have time to justify this, or even to read the whole of your long message. Please just accept this; we won't change it. I hope the rest of the Emacs developers also won't spend time arguing about this, because the distraction would get in the way of other work.