From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python.el fixes for Emacs 22 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:22:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ve4sqsqe.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <18356.54892.186541.669277@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <861w7euz7a.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <2cd46e7f0802150943x46e9bcb0i4c3b6075d48cc979@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203254958 16010 80.91.229.12 (17 Feb 2008 13:29:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sdl.web@gmail.com, nickrob@snap.net.nz, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Ken Manheimer" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 17 14:29:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQjaO-0007pJ-Gx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:29:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQjZu-0003CH-1L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:29:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQjTl-0007VD-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:22:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQjTl-0007Us-C3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQjTl-0007Un-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JQjTk-0001JR-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:22:48 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JQjTk-0002tk-IV; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:22:48 -0500 In-reply-to: <2cd46e7f0802150943x46e9bcb0i4c3b6075d48cc979@mail.gmail.com> (ken.manheimer@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89337 Archived-At: it looks like the reason for the separate implementation of python.el had something to do with problems getting copyright assignments. It is possible that our python.el is also older. (I am not sure, just speculating.) On the other hand, we might have replaced it with python-mode.el by now if we could get papers for it. in any case, i *do* want to see pdb tracking included in whichever. as the author of the feature, i should be able to authorize its use wherever, and am frustrated with the twisty turns of events that have prevented that. If you wrote the original version, we can install that with papers from you alone. (Just say that you consider it a change to Emacs and your assignment will cover it.) You could also give us any of your own subsequent changes. Then others (or you) could implement replacements for subsequent improvements.