From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: change cursor type when idle Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <000d01c86c82$700dccc0$7051908d@us.oracle.com> <200802121430.m1CEUc6k013361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <002601c86d8a$a0454db0$405a908d@us.oracle.com> <87tzkdnkee.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202940064 7854 80.91.229.12 (13 Feb 2008 22:01:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 23:01:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JPPfD-00050Q-Ux for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:01:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPPek-0003Bq-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPPef-0003BV-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPPea-0003Ap-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPPea-0003Am-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPPea-00066I-HW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JPPeZ-0007pQ-5F; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:31 -0500 In-reply-to: <87tzkdnkee.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (storm@cua.dk) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88983 Archived-At: The reason it is tied into cua-mode in the first place is that I needed to have separate cursor styles for rectangle marking and the global-mark feature. As a historical explanation, that makes sense, but I don't see why this is an argument against installing a general cursor-style control feature. The real point is that we should verify that it serves CUA's needs before installing it. In principle, I fully agree that cua-mode should be completely separated into different packages, but unfortunately, the features provided by cua-mode need some rather deep interactions, so it is hard to actually split them (more than I have already done). We shouldn't lump together the question of splitting out the CUA with the question of splitting apart other CUA features.