From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Implementing Eclipse's "organize-imports" in Emacs Lisp Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201556234 11750 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2008 21:37:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 28 22:37:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJbfT-0004OG-4e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:37:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbf2-0007km-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:37:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbbI-0005zj-Ha for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:33:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbbG-0005ya-T2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:33:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbbG-0005yV-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:33:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJbbG-0007m0-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:33:06 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JJbbF-0003bV-Q3; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:33:05 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Miles Bader on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:05 +0900) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87733 Archived-At: I don't how much of it is the GUI bits (which presumably Emacs wouldn't use), but the normal Eclipse app is _extremely_ slow just to start, even before you load a project. Of course it _also_ consumes vast amounts of memory, which make having a persistent process around a bit less inviting ... :-( Unless someone wants to write a totally new program, either we use that one or we don't. Someone interested in this should actually TRY doing this operation without the GUI. Speculating about it is not worth our time.