From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Project [was: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like] Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <4pd9g15e.fsf@blue.sea.net> <87r6g7z3m2.fsf@everybody.org> <87odbbngr8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080125231308.57E9A30303@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> <873aslsck9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85bq77yxpf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <18332.58450.182059.702244@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18333.35570.901458.570129@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201556203 11653 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2008 21:36:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 28 22:37:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJbeu-0004AW-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:36:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbeT-0007Vf-A0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:36:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbb2-0005tW-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbb1-0005t7-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJbb1-0005t0-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJbb1-0007h5-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JJbb0-0003YX-Qr; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:32:50 -0500 In-reply-to: <18333.35570.901458.570129@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:57:38 +1300) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87732 Archived-At: > We should be designing them both to work well together. For instance, > the GDB developers should pay attention to what your Emacs work needs. Yes, but that much would be true for any other free software project like kdevelop or cgdb. Those programs are other projects, not part of our project. It is good to help them when possible, but GNU packages get special priority. From reading http://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.html it seems to basically imply availability ftp.gnu.org on and consistency in coding, documentation and licencing. Those are some of the specific practical conditions and requirements, but don't neglect the forest for the trees. Those specific practical points are aspects of being part of one larger project.