From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; describe-char gives wrong information Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:40:03 +0900 Message-ID: References: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199968873 25246 80.91.229.12 (10 Jan 2008 12:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 13:41:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JCwiy-0002vN-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:41:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCwib-0007sK-0c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:41:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCwi0-0007FH-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCwhy-0007Cz-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCwhy-0007Cp-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCwhy-0006xD-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JCwhy-0002dW-3d for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCwhu-0006w3-HQ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCwhp-0006tb-BK for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:40:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m0ACe8Ig021975; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:40:08 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m0ACe8D9013654; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:40:08 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m0ACe3uj013083; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:40:03 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JCwhX-00071P-58; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:40:03 +0900 In-reply-to: <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE> (message from Peter Dyballa on Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:05:05 +0100) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86695 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20576 Archived-At: In article <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE>, Peter Dyballa writes: >>> Arial Unicode has U+1F48. It does not have it in a gb18030.2000-0 >>> font encoding, because this code point is not defined in >>> GB18030-2000. So one of the first mistakes is to assume U+1F48 is >>> defined in GB18030-2000 > > > > The charset GB18030-2000 surely contains U+1F48. Actually > > it contains all Unicode characters. > > >>> and another one is to use a partial font >>> encoding like gb18030.2000-0 > > > > What do you mean by "partial font encoding"? Anyway, as I > > wrote before, the bug of selecting a font that doesn't have > > the character should be fixed now. > Can be I misunderstood the standard and saw gaps in it when there > none. A font labelled as GB18030.2000 doesn't necessarily contains all characters of the charset GB18030.2000. > Anyway: fact is that a few programmes show that arial unicode > ms has U+1F48 and GNU Emacs 23.0.60 does not display it from the > font's gb18030.2000-0 encoding. I am attaching two screenshots from > xfd. The gb18030.2000-0 encoding variant starts far behind Greek at U > +8140, which I understand as: this encoding does not provide glyphs > outside some Chinese block(s). You are still confusing with the encoding and the repertory. "GB18030.2000-0" is a part of a XLFD fontname showing the encoding of the font, and it doesn't mean the repertory (i.e. which characters are included in that font). That is the same as any "ISO10646-1" fonts. AFAIK, none of them contain all of Unicode BMP characters. Anyway, have you tried the latest code? Does it still try to display U+1F48 using the font "...-gb18030.2000-0"? --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp