From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: toggling a minor mode should not tell Customize that the value has been set Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199705943 7099 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2008 11:39:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 07 12:39:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBqK7-0005zT-JD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:39:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqJk-00046Q-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:38:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqCy-0005V9-EA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:56 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqCw-0005Sz-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqCw-0005Ss-Cn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBqCw-0002h5-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:54 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBqCv-0005jV-Nk; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:53 -0500 In-reply-to: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86465 Archived-At: Fair enough. Would you then change all commands that change option values so that they too tell Customize that the value has been customized? Would you somehow make sure that not only commands but all Lisp code does the same thing? That approach (all or none) is basically mistaken. Anyway, there's no point spending more time discussing this; I've told you the decision.