From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Put hide-ifdef on menu-bar? Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <18303.12050.877970.348893@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200801050914.m059E68s012506@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <477F5695.5000607@gmx.at> <200801060108.m0618fq3014424@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <18305.17988.586928.131214@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199705904 7000 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2008 11:38:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, nickrob@snap.net.nz, dann@ics.uci.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 07 12:38:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBqJV-0005qR-MT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:38:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqJ8-0003ss-MM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:38:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqCv-0005SX-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqCt-0005R0-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBqCt-0005Qp-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBqCt-0002gL-RU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBqCt-0005g9-2k; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:31:51 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Tom Tromey on Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:45:25 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86464 Archived-At: Also, Eclipse allows fringe elements which do not scroll with the window contents. This turns out to be pretty handy. I do not understand what that means. For instance you could show the user the visible area of the current buffer (relative to the size of the whole buffer) as a different background color. That sounds like a scroll bar. We have scroll bars. Or perhaps I simply don't understand. In Eclipse you can see little blocks in the right-hand fringe which represent errors, problems, etc, and you can click them to jump to the corresponding point. I do not understand why you want these not to scroll with the text they apply to.