From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <198e25e10801052103p7acfcacdndaf925ea4c557e98@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199643294 32567 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 18:14:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Trey Jackson" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 19:15:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBa1i-0001YT-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:15:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBa1L-0002QE-7b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:14:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZwe-0006u6-Gh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:10:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZwb-0006sF-QK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:10:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZwb-0006rv-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBZwb-00014R-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBZwa-0001tY-VK; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:56 -0500 In-reply-to: <198e25e10801052103p7acfcacdndaf925ea4c557e98@mail.gmail.com> (bigfaceworm@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86362 Archived-At: The graphical improvements to GUD are nice, but as far as I can see, the new features are limited to viewing GUD data. Isn't that what an IDE is? Something to let you look at execution data and source code in a convenient coordinated way? project management (files & build) What does that mean? Is it some alternative to makefiles? bug tracking (see the other threads) task management (planner.el, todo-mode, etc.) code browsing (yes, it exists, but as add-ons) manage window configurations (Eclipse calls them perspectives) I would like to know more about this. Emacs lacks convenient features to usefully save and adjust window configurations, and it would be nice to add that as a general feature.