From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: Frame Height Different for Default Frame and Additional Frames] Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:08:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <002501c8044b$fcc95390$6100000a@intermedinc.internal> <4701F8AC.6070900@gmx.at> <470A9D22.2040709@gmx.at> <470BF1BF.3000609@gmx.at> <470C695D.5010906@swipnet.se> <470DE439.1030603@gmx.at> <470E655E.10905@swipnet.se> <4773F8BA.4090009@gmx.at> <47755756.20601@gmx.at> <47758C04.9050908@gmx.at> <477F6887.60703@swipnet.se> <477F8145.9000605@gmx.at> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199607437 29163 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 08:17:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 09:17:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBQhN-0001Yb-QI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:17:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBQh1-0003tF-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:17:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBQeY-0001gb-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:14:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBQeV-0001eO-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:14:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBQeV-0001eE-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:14:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBQeV-0004LY-Dd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:14:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBQYz-0001UG-4S; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:08:57 -0500 In-reply-to: <477F8145.9000605@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:08:21 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86297 Archived-At: Did we already settle on a "right" way to do this? Robert expressed the desire to keep the number of text lines invariant. ISTR others wanted the size of the frame on the screen stay invariant. Ideally, the tool bar ought to work like the menu bar: turning it on or off should not affect the height of the text area.