From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "CHANGED outside Customize" in frames customization group
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1J977E-0003yc-Ku@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4777E0F1.3080100@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:18:25 +0100)
`frame-notice-user-settings' may set the value of `default-frame-alist'
overriding a saved or standard value. The value of `blink-cursor-mode'
is not reset by Emacs.
Ok, but why does that matter for this issue?
> Delete them in the customization buffer, save your settings, restart
> Emacs, and here they are again.
>
> That is arguably a bug, and maybe we should fix it.
> However, I do not see that this bug is so grave
> that we should conclude that `default-frame-alist' is
> unsuitable for use with Custom.
The bug causes the "CHANGED outside Customize ..." state.
Here's an idea. We can create a new variable
`command-args-frame-alist', and make the functions which obey
`default-frame-alist' use `command-args-frame-alist' too.
Settings such as `menu-bar-lines', which are set by arguments and X
resources can go in `command-args-frame-alist', and would not affect
`default-frame-alist'. One consequence would be that the values
specified by command line options and X resources would override your
customizations. That seems correct.
Customizing `fringe-mode' calls `modify-all-frames-parameters' which
sets `default-frame-alist'. I'm now told that `default-frame-alist' was
CHANGED outside Customize although all I actually did was _customizing_
some option.
The solution to that is just to inform Custom about the change, so it
will realize that the change to `default-frame-alist' was made within
Custom.
It's just a bug, it just needs to be fixed.
> If the problem is in some detail of the behavior of Custom when it is
> used on `default-frame-alist', maybe we can fix that detail.
> For instance, maybe those other commands should do somethingto inform
> Custom of the changes, so that it looks like `default-frame-alist'
> was set using Custom.
Suppose I set and save a new value for `fringe-mode'. Should Emacs
automatically set and save the new value for `default-frame-alist'?
Maybe it should, but that would require a new Custom feature:
dependencies, "If you save `foo', always save `bar' too".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-30 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-29 9:44 "CHANGED outside Customize" in frames customization group martin rudalics
2007-12-29 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-29 16:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-12-29 17:33 ` martin rudalics
2007-12-29 18:14 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-30 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-29 17:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-30 14:07 ` martin rudalics
2007-12-30 15:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-30 18:18 ` martin rudalics
2007-12-30 22:58 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2007-12-31 11:04 ` martin rudalics
2008-01-01 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-01 10:24 ` martin rudalics
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-03 19:32 ` martin rudalics
2008-01-05 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 10:14 ` martin rudalics
2008-01-06 18:10 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 19:00 ` martin rudalics
2008-01-07 11:31 ` Richard Stallman
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